My KS DMV experience.....
Posted: 25 Jun 2012 12:01
Just wanted to share some of the things I encountered bringing into KS a 02 KTM 400exc that was MO street legal. I had hunted for one that was already KS plated but the prices were way more than I wanted to spend.
The Back story-
I have been wanting a street legal dirt bike for sometime that was electric start. I had bought an 05 wr250f that had a street legal AR title that I was going to try and get tagged in KS, but found out my wife and I were expecting our first kid and I went on a war path of selling things to put as much cash aside in case of the unexpected. So that bike went to a buddy of mine that was moving to Reno, NV. So fast forward a few months, having my daughter wasnt as costly as I thought it might be (thank goodness for good insurance) and a fairly clean MO tagged 02 KTM 400exc came up for sale. It ended up in the back of my truck....
So I have heard all of the horror stories from this forum and others on the web. I was a bit nervous if I could get the bike tagged or not since KTM's of that era fall into a grey area. So I loaded up the bike in the back of the truck headed to the county courthouse for my inspection with the clerk and to see about that elusive tag.
First off, I had the bike in the back of my truck and the little old lady clerk wasnt about to get in the back of my truck to look a the VIN. I had not brought a ramp to unload it, but did bring a bike stand that she used to try and get a closer look of the VIN. After that was done, she starting asking about a federal cert that is suppose to be on the head race. Mine was mostly gone, due to years of the cables rubbing on it. She was pretty serious about wanting to see that sticker and it this point I thought I was screwed. I didnt offer any additional information and acted like (and I was) pretty clueless on what she wanted. She ended up marking it as illegible on the form, but passed me for the VIN inspection. I was still on the nervous side at this point.
So after the inspection I headed to the tag office to see what was going to happen next. The clerk asked me if I was transferring or was needing a new tag, in which I replied. Looked everything over and started entering everything into the computer. He asked what type or model it was. Where I started to get real nervous again was when he went looking for the model number and couldnt find the description on the computer and asked another clerk to come over. She showed him what to enter and I asked if there was a problem. She replied that there are so many different makes and models that the computer cant keep up with all of it. So after that, we were good to go. Walked out with my plates.
So my helpful hints on out of state plated bikes are-
1.Make sure the bike has all of its safety gear on at the time of inspection
2. Be aware of what your federal cert sticker looks like and says
3. Avoid big city inspection stations
4. Be careful of what you call your bike. My advice is do not call it a dirt bike. Words like dual purpose sound better than some hooligan wanting to plate his dirtbike.
5. If your bike's title says "offroad only" dont waste your time in KS
6. Buy a bike that is already ks plated
7. And if you want to avoid all of this all together, buy a bike that is for certain 50 state legal, but make sure that federal cert label is in good shape. I think that is really going to come into play for bikes in the future in the state of KS. I really dont remember them asking to see a federal cert label on any of the bikes I have had to have VIN inspected in the past. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.
So this was my experience in the last few days. Others experience will probably vary. Maybe I got lucky and maybe I get a letter saying they are revoking the tag. I think KS is missing the boat on making this so difficult compared to other states that surround us. And if I have shared any info that should remain secret, mods please feel free to nuke this post to never be seen again. I just wanted to get some current info out there to maybe help someone like me get through the process.
The Back story-
I have been wanting a street legal dirt bike for sometime that was electric start. I had bought an 05 wr250f that had a street legal AR title that I was going to try and get tagged in KS, but found out my wife and I were expecting our first kid and I went on a war path of selling things to put as much cash aside in case of the unexpected. So that bike went to a buddy of mine that was moving to Reno, NV. So fast forward a few months, having my daughter wasnt as costly as I thought it might be (thank goodness for good insurance) and a fairly clean MO tagged 02 KTM 400exc came up for sale. It ended up in the back of my truck....
So I have heard all of the horror stories from this forum and others on the web. I was a bit nervous if I could get the bike tagged or not since KTM's of that era fall into a grey area. So I loaded up the bike in the back of the truck headed to the county courthouse for my inspection with the clerk and to see about that elusive tag.
First off, I had the bike in the back of my truck and the little old lady clerk wasnt about to get in the back of my truck to look a the VIN. I had not brought a ramp to unload it, but did bring a bike stand that she used to try and get a closer look of the VIN. After that was done, she starting asking about a federal cert that is suppose to be on the head race. Mine was mostly gone, due to years of the cables rubbing on it. She was pretty serious about wanting to see that sticker and it this point I thought I was screwed. I didnt offer any additional information and acted like (and I was) pretty clueless on what she wanted. She ended up marking it as illegible on the form, but passed me for the VIN inspection. I was still on the nervous side at this point.
So after the inspection I headed to the tag office to see what was going to happen next. The clerk asked me if I was transferring or was needing a new tag, in which I replied. Looked everything over and started entering everything into the computer. He asked what type or model it was. Where I started to get real nervous again was when he went looking for the model number and couldnt find the description on the computer and asked another clerk to come over. She showed him what to enter and I asked if there was a problem. She replied that there are so many different makes and models that the computer cant keep up with all of it. So after that, we were good to go. Walked out with my plates.
So my helpful hints on out of state plated bikes are-
1.Make sure the bike has all of its safety gear on at the time of inspection
2. Be aware of what your federal cert sticker looks like and says
3. Avoid big city inspection stations
4. Be careful of what you call your bike. My advice is do not call it a dirt bike. Words like dual purpose sound better than some hooligan wanting to plate his dirtbike.
5. If your bike's title says "offroad only" dont waste your time in KS
6. Buy a bike that is already ks plated
7. And if you want to avoid all of this all together, buy a bike that is for certain 50 state legal, but make sure that federal cert label is in good shape. I think that is really going to come into play for bikes in the future in the state of KS. I really dont remember them asking to see a federal cert label on any of the bikes I have had to have VIN inspected in the past. Maybe someone else can chime in on that.
So this was my experience in the last few days. Others experience will probably vary. Maybe I got lucky and maybe I get a letter saying they are revoking the tag. I think KS is missing the boat on making this so difficult compared to other states that surround us. And if I have shared any info that should remain secret, mods please feel free to nuke this post to never be seen again. I just wanted to get some current info out there to maybe help someone like me get through the process.